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Thoughts on Team USA

For anybody who has been watching Team USA's summer has been all about three words - "redemption", "gold medal". And while numerous individuals - players, coaches, and broadcasters - have acknowledged that the world can play basketball there is still a sense that the US can regain the glory days. But there in lies the problem. Those days are long gone. I'm not saying the US can not or should not win gold. Rather the idea that they can cruise, not study their opponents, and just win on their athleticism is a flawed one. And the Australian game was a phenomenal example of everything Team USA is up against. Consider the following points.

1. The Americans cheat on defense looking for steals and fast break dunks. Against lesser teams it works and the US rolls to victories. But consider what Australia did today. The Boomers refused to be intimidated or back down and hung around as a result. In fact Matt Nielsen and Chris Anstey worked a nice two-man game at times, creating easy baskets in the process. If Andrew Bogut had been around to help with depth, scoring, and passing that would have further complicated things.

2. Rick Kamla pointed out at some point in the exhibition run that Team USA's best lineup might be Chris Paul, Kobe Bryant, Dwyane Wade, Carmelo Anthony, and LeBron James. Those guys will create match up nightmares. At the same time they'll get worked in the post and on the glass as well. In general the US, regardless of the lineup is susceptible to physical play down low.

3. I think it's safe to assume the Americans will shoot better than 16.7% (3-18) from 3-point range. At least I hope it is. However, it's definitely not out of the realm of possibility that an opponent could best Australia's 40% (8-20). Furthermore, I recognize the fact that the 3-point line is significantly closer. However, the Americans are by and large slashers. Outside of Michael Redd who on the US roster is a pure shooter? Just remember there's a reason the Boston Celtics worked like crazy to make LeBron and Kobe shoot from the outside during the playoffs.

4. Patrick Mills blew by Jason Kidd and Deron Williams. Fair enough. The latter is older and the former is a bigger guard. But Mills left Chris Paul behind as well. Now Mills made some mistakes, missed some shots, and the Australians definitely needed C.J. Bruton to run the point and hit some 3s. Still Mills turns 20 in 6 days. He's going to get better. There will come a time when another squad matches an American roster athlete for athlete. And yet the bigger concern should be who plays the game better.

5. Realistically Team USA and its NBA players will have to adjust and mimic their opponents (Hat tip TrueHoop) at some point.

6. In closing, I realize Zyrdunas Ilgauskas stayed home, at last in part, because of the Cleveland Cavaliers. Yet that may be more the exception than the rule. Jorge Garbajosa left the Toronto Raptors to represent Spain and Matt Nielsen paid his own way. In the back of my mind I can't get over the fact that some of these international guys want this well beyond rhetoric. Of course I could be way off on this one. The Americans are giving up their free time and working hard as well.

7. Actually one more point. I'm really concerned about the Americans' offense and defense. At times I was reminded of Kobe Bryant versus the Celtics when he settled for deep shots. For stretches he made some, but they're low percentage shots and over the course of a game and definitely a series they simply were not enough. Meanwhile, I learned a great deal about defense from the Celtics this past season. They rotated like crazy, cut down passing lanes, talked, and outside of Rajon Rondo rarely gambled for steals. On top of all that they were physical. Does Team USA do any of that?

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I agree with you on all of these points Jim. In particular, as you said, our best lineups are far too small. Dwight Howard has not been playing very well, and if he picks it up then things might look a little better. In particular, and I’ve heard this said elsewhere, I think that a guy like Tyson Chandler would have been great for this team.

Chris Paul should be the starting point guard. I’m not being objective at all here because I hate Jason Kidd and I love watching Chris Paul. He is must see TV to me. But, he’s clearly been playing the best of the three so far.

D-Wade looks great.

by roomofzen on Aug 5, 2008 7:03 PM EDT   0 recs

AND

how about some more minutes for tayshaun prince? He’s very long and he can defend.

by roomofzen on Aug 5, 2008 7:06 PM EDT   0 recs

Thoughts on Team USA

Great article, Jim. I agree with all of your points. Additionally, I have a question about
Team USA’s poise under the pressure of physical international play. In the last two exhibition games, LeBron James has gotten a bit testy when players from the opposing team have played him very physically. The game will get even more physical when each game counts. We need to take the hits and keep playing. At least Team USA is not a team that has been whining for calls, but they can’t let the international players sucker them into technical/unsportsmanlike fouls.

I also wonder how much the officiating will change in the Olympic games. From all the games I watched, there were times when I thought an international ref would have called a traveling violation or a foul that wasn’t called during the exhibition. Also, in international rules, all timing violations (8 seconds across court, 24 second shot clock, any issue of time) is ultimately decided by the count of the officials. Regardless of what the shot clock, game clock, or scorers’ table stat keepers say, the official has final say over all time issues (it’s in the 2004 and 2006 FIBA Official Rules book, and that’s how we lost to Russia years ago when 3 seconds were put back on the clock—official’s word is the final say regardless of anything else). We can’t let the officials’ calls disrupt our concentration. We have enough trouble in the half court set without getting flustered.

I think that even after the 3-year commitment, the make up of each summer’s team has changed, and we still play too much one-on-one. I’m hoping we have set plays that Coach K was smart enough to hold back during the exhibitions; that’s what the other teams do!

I think we have the talent and the skills necessary; I just don’t think Team USA will blow away the field in the Olympics like they did during the “friendlies.” How much will the additional work needed for victories that count take out of our players? Since they pulled it together last summer in the FIBA Americas to qualify for the Olympics, I am hoping they have that same extra level of play to go to against the better teams.

I am a Tyson Chandler supporter from his performance last summer; I think not having him on Team USA is a mistake. Perhaps Jason Kidd might be a better motivator from the bench than he would be by taking up a roster spot?

USA, Greece, Spain, Argentina-that’s one team too many for three medals. I expect to see USA, Spain, Greece-but how likely are all three medals to come out of the same group (Group B).

Stay healthy, stay strong Team USA, and get that gold!

TJ

by skylark on Aug 5, 2008 7:16 PM EDT   0 recs

Lot of Good Points

1. I do worry about the USA guys keeping their cool, particularly Wade and James for some reason. And I buy the argument that they get star treatment in the NBA and don’t like not getting it abroad.

2. I like Tyson Chandler. He rebounds, dunks anything Chris Paul throws his way and will block some shots. But I think big men who will play physical, knock down a jump shot, and pass well are ideal. I guess there are not a lot of them. The NBA game, minus the Suns of the past couple seasons, is simply not a free flowing game. And even Phoenix ran the pick and roll to death. I think that puts Americans in general, and their bigs in particular at a disadvantage.

3. I agree that there is way too much one-on-one. And when Team USA does move the ball it often falls into a Globetrotters, style over substance trap. That works against significantly inferior talent. Not against strong teams.

4. I do wonder if at some point we’ll come to the collective realization that carrying 3 point guards was a bad idea. I’m not a big Jason Kidd guy and don’t buy the “he’ll lead the team to gold story line” but I could be convinced that he was saving himself for Beijing. Perhaps more troubling is the fact that Chris Paul has looked average for 2 straight games.

5. Overall if the Americans win it all they will have to work for it, which would be exciting. I’d love a Spain/USA final.

- Good stuff guys. Thanks for stopping by.

Green Bandwagon: Celtics '08 or bust. Are you on the bandwagon?

by Jim Weeks on Aug 5, 2008 7:51 PM EDT   0 recs

Terrific story

The “glory days are gone” is an intriguing point. I’ve thought of it as it’s only a matter of coaching and effort before we return to dominance. But you’re dead on, the time is probably up where we can dominate even with excellent coaching and hustle.

And your last point reminds me of something I wonder each time the Olympics roll by. How would defending NBA champions fare against the world? Let’s be crazy and imagine that the Celtics roster stayed together after this year’s Finals instead of taking the offseason off and trained for the Olympics. How would they do? How would Detroit have done in 2004? L.A. in 2000? Jordan’s Bulls in ‘96?

by atthehive on Aug 6, 2008 3:00 AM EDT   0 recs

Interesting Question

BrewHoop asked a similar question in its Team USA versus the Celtics post. The NBA squad would definitely have defined roles and most likely good chemistry. At the same time the champs would be just as tempted by the shorter 3-point shot and would probably rely more heavily on isolation than ball movement and a free flowing offense. The international teams seem to have the chemistry and clearly defined roles that a NBA champ has as well as some great talent.

Green Bandwagon: Celtics '08 or bust. Are you on the bandwagon?

by Jim Weeks on Aug 6, 2008 8:24 AM EDT   0 recs

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